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OSF Announcment Questions and Answers
1. What happened to the OSF-submission of HP?
HP technologies that were selected by OSF are the OpenView Network
Management Server (NMS), Network License Server (NetLS) and Software
Distribution Utilities (SDU) were selected as componemts of DME. IBM,
an important HP partner is the OSF RFT submission, has the Data Engine
and System Resource Controller (SRC) selected by OSF.
There were a number of other technologies that HP submitted but was not
selected by OSF. Taskbroker, Glance Plus and OmniBack have been
excluded from the scope of the RFT. OpenSpool was excluded, because OSF
decided on enabling technologies only.
2. How did HP's partnering efforts help win the DME?
HP and IBM teamed up soon after OSF announced the DME RFT. HP and IBM
had separate technologies for the RFT that was complementary to each
other and met a large portion of the RFT. HP and IBM began working
with other organizations to help assist OSF in selecting the
best-in-class technology. We worked with Tivoli Systems, Groupe Bull,
NCR, and Siemans Nixdorf Informationssystems to name a few.
The efforts put forth by HP and IBM resulted in a selection made by OSF
that is both innovative and meets industry standards.
3. HP is an OSF founding member and has been a technology supplier to
OSF for three of the four OSF RFTs (Motif, DCE, DME). Isn't OSF biased
towards their founding memebers in their decisions for OSF RFT
technology suppliers?
HP has been fortunate in being selected by OSF for the three OSF RFTs.
During each of these RFTs, OSF spends a great deal of time
understanding the technical background of the product. It sometimes
can be a difficult experience having to defend the technical decisions
made for a specific product.
The OSF lab team does have a very difficult situation. The OSF members
do not have to choose/purchase the technology chosen by OSF.
Therefore, the lab team must choose the best technical solution so that
the majority of OSF members use the products that OSF delivers. The
fact that the technologies OSF is delivering have been successful
indicates that their efforts and choices have been correct.
4. What is the benefit of the DME selection for HP ?
With the selection of HP OpenView as the core of DME, HP's benefits are
the early availibility of DME-compliant products allow HP to capture on
time-to-market and distribution of HP-technology through OSF channel
allows HP to generate incremental business.
More importantly to HP, what is the benefit of the DME selection for
customers? The combined efforts of all the technology suppliers for
DME will produce a better distributed computing environment based on
industry standards. It will allow customers to manage their
distributed environments like their stand alone systems today. It will
help reduce costs or increase productivity of their employees.
Also, the customers do not have to wait until tomorrow for DME
solutions. HP OpenView family of products provide solutions to
customers management problems today. With the selection of OpenView as
the core of the DME technology and with the current solutions now
offered, HP OpenView is the right strategic choice today.
5. You have discussed solutions, what solutions are available from HP
for Network and/or Systems Management?
HP has solutions for backup/restore, network load balancing,
performance management, output spolling, software distribution and
installation, software licensing, internet management and network
element management. We also solutions from other solution providers
(i.e. DECNet Manager, NetView Gateway)
We are planning a large solution push for OpenView in the near future.
6. What is the roadmap to DME compliance?
As you can tell by the OSF DME announcment, HP provides a large portion
of the technologies to DME. HP is already delivering much of the
technology in the DME. HP is also close to completing the enhancements
to the current products for delivery. In 1992, HP will have a set of
products that will be the first to be compliant with the OSF DME.
The OSF selected technologies and associated products are:
NetLS - currently shipping on HP-UX
Software Distribution Utilities (SDU) - enhancements to shipping
product on HP-UX
HP Network Management Server - 3.0 product will be shipping in '92.
7. What is the role of DME in the network and system management world?
DME will be the prerequisite for management of Open Systems. Although
the DME was intended to be the management solution for OSF technologies
(Motif, OSF/1, and DCE), we have found that many solution providers are
looking for a strategic management platform to manage all types of
objects outside of OSF technologies. These include management of
network elements (bridges, hubs, routers), WAN devices, and disc drives
to name a few others.
8. Will DME/OpenView be ported to all HP platforms (Domain, 3000,
S800, S700)?
HP OpenView will, in the future, be able to manage a 3000. We are
currently investigating if we need to have OpenView Management Server
ported to the 3000.
It is currently available on the HP 9000 computers
9. Last year, HP announced a relationship with Computer Associates to
port their existing management solutions to your multiuser UNIX (S800)
machines. How does winning the DME effect this CA relationship?
At the time of the announcement, HP very clearly offered the strategy
for OpenView and the CA products. It is our intent to have OpenView as
the management framework for HP's multiuser systems. We have discussed
with CA the use of the OpenView framework for their solutions. We have
nothing further to announce at this time.
Needless to say, we will continue to work with CA to deliver the best
solution for HP customers.
10. OMG and DME (OpenView and NewWave)?
DME's strategic intent is to provide resource management for networks
and systems in the open systems environment. OMG's strategic intent is
to provide application management (ie. for distributed data and object
management).
The DME framework will support multiple object model types. Initially
this includes Tivolli object methods and the IBM data engine. In the
future OMG's object methods can also be integrated on top of the DME
framwework. It is HP's belief that multiple object methods will exist
in the industry not just one.
There currently is overlap between OMG and DME and HP is committed to
help provide assistance to reduce the overlap and provide maximum value
to the customer. HP feels that by this complementry positioning and
integration of OMG and DME that the customer will recieve information
management!!
11. DCE took 16 months from announcement to general availability.
Will DME take that long?
OSF would be a better group to answer this question. There probably
will be some effort required to integrate the different technologies
from different vendors. HP will be able to offer products much sooner
and will be based on the technology HP offered to OSF.
12. When can I buy the product you will deliver to OSF (OpenView
3.0)? What is the price?
We are currently in the middle of developing the Network Management
Server 3.0 product. This is what OSF DME is based on. We expect
delivery of NMS 3.0 to be in 1H92. This will be the first commercially
available framework that is based on the DME selected APIs.
It is still to early to provide pricing information at this time.
13. How does the OpenView win with DME affect OpenView/DOS?
DME is relatively unclear with respect to how it will integrate with
pre-existing manager stations such as those based upon OpenView/DOS.
HP, however, is implementing a strategy of cooperating hierarchical
manager stations which we call "Manager Of Managers", or MoM.
The MoM relationship means that manager stations can manage small
domains of equipment and systems, and also be controlled and integrated
with managers stations which have a view of the entire corporate
internetwork. This provides multiple points of control and higher
network reliability via redundancy.
Today HP offers SNMP on both OpenView DOS and Unix as a means of
allowing cooperating manager applications to communicate. This is the
first stage in increasing integration between the two platforms. As
OpenView Unix becomes DME compliant, SNMP will continue to be supported.
As the DME standard takes shape, we will also examine other
communication mechanisms which will allow close integration of
OpenView/DOS and DME.
There are other forms of integration as well which we are
investigating, including map conversion and data base access.
14. Last spring, HP announced an agreement with NCR to work on the OSF
DME submittal. What happened to NCR in this RFT? Did the AT&T
takeover have any effect?
HP along with a large number of OSF members strongly suggested to OSF
that they needed to over a management solution for the large installed
base of PCs and PC LANs. When HP looked at the technology offered to
OSF, NCR's End Node Manager provided a strong solution for managing PCs
and PC LANs. HP and NCR agreed to work together to offer this solution
to OSF.
OSF needs to answer why NCR was not included in this announcement. The
AT&T purchase of NCR did not influence our efforts with this nor do we
believe that it influenced NCR attempt to get their technology accepted
by OSF. WE still feel strongly that OSF needs a solution for PC
management.
15. What is the Relationship Between HP and Gradient? How Is/Was
Gradient Involved with NetLS? Why is HP Partnering with Gradient on
NetLS?
As the LOI states, Gradient and HP worked together on the submission of
NetLS to the OSF. We are also working together on other cooperative
activities with NetLS. Gradient was a full partner on all NetLS
submission activities.
HP chose to work with Gradient because of their strength in the area of
distributed computing. The staff has significant experience in the
computer industry and brings expertise in the distributed, multi-vendor
application development.
16. How Does NetLS Compare to Other Licensing Systems Submitted?
We feel that NetLS presented a very strong option for DME in the area
of software licensing. It was the only technology that combines a
proven product/track record, with major backing in the industry, with
compatibility on OSF standards (Motif and NCS/DCE). Also, NetLS Is the
only licensing system originally architected to support and operate in
distributed computing environments, and used NCS from its inception.
We believe, as does the OSF, that the structure and capabilities of
NetLS most closely address the needs of the marketplace.
17. What is the availability of Software Distribution Utilities (SDU)
from HP? When will HP have the DME 1.0 version of Software
Distribution Utilities (SDU) available?
SDU is based on the software management tools available as part of the
HP-UX operating system. The version submitted to the DME RFT will be
available on HP's first OSF/1 product.
18. What is the cost of Software Distribution Utilities (SDU) ?
Product structure and pricing has not been set at this point.
19. How similar/different are the current HP-UX tools to/from SDU?
SDU is an enhanced version of the tools currently being shipped with
our HP-UX product. Major enhancements include a Motif user interface
and single point administration for the DCE enviroment.
20. What are the main strengths of this solution? (or "Why did OSF
select it?)
This is a complete solution from a number perspectives
* Addresses software vendors, large and small users
* Covers OS and application software
* Easy to use (Motif) and highly flexible
* Single-point administration
21. What are the main components of the SDU?
SDU includes a specification of a portable logical media format, plus
utilities to:
Build media physical media (tapes, CD-ROMS, floppies) and network
servers in this format.
Build network servers from physical media.
Install software from physical media or network servers.
List the software installed on a system or available on a physical
media or network server.
Remove (or deinstall) software from a system or a network server.
22. Do you provide deinstall? If so, can you regress back to the
previous install level?
Yes, SDU supports deinstall. Regression back to the previous install
level is not supported directly, but can be achieved by reinstalling
the previous level after the deinstallation.
23. Do you support multiple versions of the software?
Yes. A single media or network server can have different newer and
older versions of the same software, or versions to run on different
platforms. By default the correct version for a given target system is
automatically selected.
24. Does software installation work with NetLS?
NetLS, like other license systems, manages access to software at
execution time, and does not directly play a role in the installation
or physical distribution of the software. Thus software installation
"works with" NetLS by doing nothing.
25. How integrated is SDU with other portions of the DME? Does SDU
work with the other DME components?
SDU is currently integrated with the DME (OpenView Windows) user
interface level. Target systems for software installation can be
selected from a network map.
We are committed to utilize other DME and DCE technologies with our SDU
as appropriate and are working with the various selected technologies
to work out a viable plan and schedule for further integration.
26. How can your submission be customized? Extended?
In many ways. Each software product that is installed or distributed
can include customization scripts to be run before and after it is
installed and before it is deinstalled. This gives considerable
flexibility.